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E53: The VIP Café Show with Sharla Haun - Turning Our Faults into Comedy Gold

• Debbie Larson and Greg Smith • Season 3 • Episode 53

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What if you could transform life's messiest moments into laugh-out-loud stories? On this episode of the VIP Cafe Show, we have the pleasure of chatting with Sharla Haun, a seasoned lawyer-turned-humor coach who teaches business professionals to find the funny in life's most stressful situations. Sharla takes us on her journey from a 25-year legal career to teaching English composition with a comedic twist at the University of Akron. We hear about the creative assignments she gave her students, the humor that blossomed from them, and how even those who didn't consider themselves funny learned valuable humor skills.

We also get a sneak peek into Sharla's upcoming book, "Have Fun With Your Faults," which promises to help readers turn their most cringe-worthy moments into comedic gold. Sharla shares her insights on the power of self-reflection, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic, and how embracing our stories can unlock unexpected creativity. Additionally, we dive into stand-up comedy, discussing the importance of storytelling, the nerve-wracking first performance, and the critical distinction between 'punching up' and 'punching down.' Join us for an engaging conversation highlighting how self-acceptance and humor can transform our flaws into our greatest strengths.

Speaker 1:

hey, hey, hey, it's the vip cafe show. I'm greg smith and I'm here with my excellent co-host, debbie larson what an intro.

Speaker 2:

Hey, greg, how's it going? What you've been driving, I haven't, and I'm a little hyper today, but I'm excited about our guests.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, you're getting into the guests already All right, let's just lead them on for a minute.

Speaker 2:

You know how sometimes life gets monotonous. No, not that we've ever experienced that. There's so many people who work the 9 to 5, and today's a Monday for them, and they've forgotten the joy of life, or even how to use that joy word now.

Speaker 1:

I don't think about when I think, when I honestly, when I think of politics, joy is not the word it comes to mind. I don't care what party it is total propaganda.

Speaker 2:

That's total propaganda. They're like hey, you know what you experience at the grocery store when you're like get like nothing for all your money.

Speaker 1:

That's joy. No, I think what we should do is send them all home. If we need them, we'll call them. There, you go, let's introduce our guest.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so today we have Sharla Hahn, who is a speaking and humor coach. She teaches you to see the lighter things in life lighter things in life and she teaches you to or especially, business professionals how to take sometimes potentially really stressful situations or things that you've been going through and make humor out of them and even potentially stand up into the stand-up comedy circuit.

Speaker 1:

Really.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, Very interesting guest we have today.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, oh, hello Charlotte.

Speaker 1:

Okay, make us laugh Go.

Speaker 3:

I know right, that's always the pressure, because it's entertain me right now turn your inner chris rock on right now we should.

Speaker 2:

You know, what we should do is just stare at her like stone-faced yeah that would work no, that's too cruel.

Speaker 3:

I've experienced that.

Speaker 1:

So the one thing we always ask when we start with is what got you inspired, Like what's the story behind the story, what got you into this and you fell in love with it? What is it?

Speaker 3:

Oh, my goodness, I went back to school, so I'm a lawyer. I've been a lawyer for 25 years.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's funny right there, I know it. Oh, that's funny right there, I know it is Hilarious.

Speaker 3:

Law is fiction in a lot of ways, and so I wasn't real happy and trying to do something different and I went back to school to get a master's degree in creative writing at the University of Akron and I was teaching one class of english composition for as a graduate teaching assistant, so I had the.

Speaker 3:

The master's degree was on the house, basically right and and so the first semester we had to do what they told us. And then the next semester they said hey, you can teach whatever you want. And, and we have these new textbooks, and one of them was a humor textbook.

Speaker 1:

Really, that's great, I know.

Speaker 3:

One little opportunity does One little opportunity, and there were like a dozen graduate teaching assistants at Akron. And I was the only one that grabbed onto that opportunity. Yeah, I was like I'm too old to not take this.

Speaker 3:

The thing is, what's great, what sets you up, is being a boring lawyer You're like anything, oh my God, a lifeline, exactly, it really was too because I had just gotten out of a terrible divorce and was in the middle of a post-divorce proceeding that was just knocking my socks off. I was like I don't know how to deal with this, and so I got to teach four semesters. I could have done five, but I thought maybe I should learn to do somebody else towards the end. But I taught four classes of English, composition, humor, writing, and it was a blast.

Speaker 3:

It was such a blast, like the first paper was always a paper where they had to make fun of something about themselves. So I got papers like it was a how-to paper and they had to use some part of something that they knew about and pretend like they really needed to give advice on this.

Speaker 1:

So I got papers like how to be anti-social, how to puke in public oh, I had one, one female student that had this anxiety issue and she would puke, oh like what was that, what's that movie called, with the singers, and she's trying to think anyway, go ahead wait and you never know what's going to come out of college.

Speaker 2:

Students like head just when you think oh yeah just when you think you got that figured out. They're talking about puking.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah but it was just super fun. And then the one of the other papers that they did was they took a person that had a certain training, set or background and they put them in an impossible situation where they could not succeed. And one paper was just so funny this young woman could not stand braggers, and we would brainstorm this whole thing in the classroom and so we're like, okay, what's the worst place to put a bragger?

Speaker 3:

so we had him do a eulogy oh my goodness, that's hilarious and her paper was so great because it was one of those things where it gets up there and he just makes a fool of himself telling about how he's so much better than the decedent, and then he has this moment of reflection at the at the gathering afterwards, and then he goes home and he thinks to himself wow, was I wrong and wrong. And then the paper ends with him saying, no, I definitely nailed it.

Speaker 2:

That is great oh my goodness. So were these students people who were already interested in humor, or were they people who really didn't think that they were funny before they started taking the class?

Speaker 3:

No, it was just a basic English composition class, so this was the required English composition class for incoming freshmen, but you gave them a great skill, wonderful skill. So I had to tell them the first day like, okay, you might want to switch out of this class, because this isn't always going to be easy and it's not always going to be fun, but we had a blast, put your left, laugh your ass off we watched stand-up comedy clips.

Speaker 3:

We analyzed them literally the whole class. We taught we because the book was stuff you could easily analyze and then, we did a.

Speaker 3:

They did an analytical paper on a book called how to be black okay, which is a humorous memoir by a gentleman who went to harvard and wrote this very funny memoir and it just fits right in with what I was teaching the how-to right, how to be black, how to be antisocial, and it takes very everyday, common stuff and shows you how you could put a spin and a humor spin on it which is really powerful.

Speaker 2:

I mean if we had more of that in society.

Speaker 1:

Especially today, especially today yeah.

Speaker 2:

I had to turn the TV off earlier. I was like I can't do it.

Speaker 1:

I know, but yeah, especially in this day and age.

Speaker 2:

Now you do it, you do this now for professionals right, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So when I graduated yeah, I just could not, that's all like. All I wanted to do, right was just do this thing. And I actually started teaching a class. I did stand-up comedy. I did stand-up comedy in 2019 for the first time because I was thinking, oh, I got this down, right yeah after okay okay, so you're going from teaching this class to now.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I know what I'm doing to your first rep, go ahead and I get in this class, this workshop and the teacher didn't really teach us too much about what we needed to do and I realized I didn't know how to make fun of myself or what subjects would be relatable. I ran a couple things across or by my fellow participants and they were like yeah, we're not buying it, like we don't think, we don't believe that you have any kind of dating woes or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Oh, ok, so Charlotte apparently looks like a master.

Speaker 1:

You could tell that by looking at me, we're with Bridget Bardot right now. We didn't know that.

Speaker 3:

They would not accept anything that I had to say and I was like what can I make fun of? I didn't know. And I start to teach this class and I'm like I'm going to try it anyway. And then COVID hits.

Speaker 3:

So, I shut the website down, took a job and just said I'm gonna wait, right, yeah, but I spent all of COVID right taking all of the resources that I had from the class and applying those to myself. Oh, that's good. So you took, yeah, and it was scary how easily I found the stories that I needed yeah yeah isn't that something?

Speaker 2:

but, people don't look at themselves as interesting. Greg, you've done a lot of improv classes, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I'm sure you've seen it so many times People think they're not funny and then they dig and they all of a sudden are like, oh my goodness, I have the stories.

Speaker 3:

I have the creativity Everybody does. Isn't that something? It's true. Yeah, we're not trained to think about when we looked foolish. Like we bury it. We don't want to remember that. We don't want to remember the details, like how many people witnessed it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you're right. Yes, absolutely right. We don't want to remember that, unless it goes viral.

Speaker 3:

If it goes viral then you're all into it.

Speaker 1:

And then you get that check from Google.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, from Facebook or Google that analytic check. Yeah, that's okay. My little wall of embarrassing moments, my little closet of embarrassing moments, is pretty big.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we have no viral ones. Yet, though no viral ones.

Speaker 2:

Let's just keep them in that until they take one of your workshops.

Speaker 1:

So how do people? What are you planning on doing with this? This sounds fascinating.

Speaker 3:

So I have each chapter in the book is there's a book Wait. There's a book, there's a book, there's a book Tell us about the book.

Speaker 2:

Greg loves books.

Speaker 1:

I like books, especially when people write them.

Speaker 2:

And she's not AI.

Speaker 1:

That's what I was going for Go ahead.

Speaker 3:

So the book is called have Fun With your Faults. Have Fun With your Faults.

Speaker 1:

I'd like to have the how-to in there, but I'm just going to go with have Fun With your Faults. That's implied the how-to, I think so I would think so yes.

Speaker 2:

The website is. Have Fun With your.

Speaker 3:

Faults because you can't have too many letters and that's a lot already. Oh, I gotcha gotcha.

Speaker 3:

Then they'll be faulting typing, bad typist, bad typist to that, all right so we got a book, we got a book and in in the book is partially a memoir, partially instructive, because I start each chapter with my own foibles and faux pas and then go into exactly what that story demonstrated about a concept that you can find in screenwriting and what makes us fall in love with the comic characters in movies or shows. And then I point out examples from various TV shows and movies.

Speaker 1:

Can I say something real quick? I've worked with a lot of really talented people in storytelling and writing and novel writing, and Charlotte knows her stuff. I'm just telling you.

Speaker 3:

Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1:

She does, she knows what she's talking about.

Speaker 2:

That's huge.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but go ahead. I'm sorry. I just I had to say that because it's. It's actually, you blew my socks off. We were having that after toast masters. We had that little gathering with everybody and I was just I got to sit next to you and you were talking to me.

Speaker 3:

I'm like going whoa, wow, okay, so, so the book, that master's degree in creative writing helped, and so there's the class. Is that class that I'm going to be teaching it? We're going to highlight some of those characteristics from comic characters in movies. So, for example, like one characteristic which I was highlighting with you earlier was, we each kind of have a go-to skill, and one of my skills as a lawyer is being reasonable and being able to reason something out and line up all the elements right. And the problem is I use that skill in situations when it's not going to be effective whatsoever, like coaching my son's middle school soccer team.

Speaker 1:

It's true, okay, but if you kick the ball straight where the goalie isn't, that always works Like it was very tough to reason with 11 year olds. 12 year olds right the that's you'll find the same thing with professionals too, but I'm just a good point. Yeah, don't get your hopes that's for you, jim trestle, that's for you good point, I know, and that's what I keep finding.

Speaker 3:

That's like every chapter in my book is okay me being reasonable and dealing with somebody completely unreasonable, and I'm just like we're clashing and I can't figure it out and I fail and fail and I gripe about it and I go. How come this isn't working? Yeah, Each chapter of the book is like those kind of points and how you can catch yourself and laugh at yourself when you go.

Speaker 1:

Oh, so when's this book coming out? When, and you go, oh, I see my son. So when's?

Speaker 3:

this book coming out? When's this going to? Be I'm just doing the final edits. Now I'm going to be just selling it on the website initially, that's great yeah.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead and share your website.

Speaker 1:

The website is havefunwithyourfaultscom. Havefunwithyourfaultscom.

Speaker 3:

And there's a place in there if you want to subscribe and be advised of the book release or classes coming up in the Niles area.

Speaker 2:

And I guess you started a Facebook page that's completely empty right now.

Speaker 1:

Hey, brand new. You've got to start. Yes, you could absolutely become 100% creative with this. You could put the letter A and you will be the… Nobody's in there judging you. Yes, nobody's in there judging you.

Speaker 2:

And the pages that have a million followers, if that's even possible on Facebook. Start it with zero.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

See, I have these jokes that I've been putting on my personal Facebook page and now I've got to quit doing that and put them on my other one. I just put a joke up the other day about my orchid having a baby Because it's getting leaves along the top stem and I was like which of these houseplants is the father? Oh, that's hilarious?

Speaker 1:

Well, maybe it's immaculate. You never know, Maybe an angel came down and said you're it.

Speaker 3:

It probably is with our kids.

Speaker 2:

That would be so cute to villainize and then draw faces on.

Speaker 3:

Where's the spider?

Speaker 2:

plant. I'm sure it's the spider.

Speaker 1:

It's got all these tentacles, yeah yeah, that's the way I'm getting around. Oh, so the website. You got the book coming out coming out.

Speaker 2:

That's great.

Speaker 1:

You're gonna self publish that's wonderful, we have complete control.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and I want to invite people to come over to the funny farm comedy club and you Tell them where it's located. It's located at Margarita King on Youngstown.

Speaker 2:

Niles 422. On 422. Yeah, 422.

Speaker 3:

In Niles and it's downstairs and you can find out what's going on at funnyfarmcomedyclubcom.

Speaker 1:

Awesome.

Speaker 3:

They have open mic night on Wednesday starting at 7. If you want to come out and try it out, I'll be there up on stage doing bits or hosting, or occasionally in the audience. How did that?

Speaker 1:

first time ever, go for you. I don't think you've ever told there's an open loop there, we've got to close.

Speaker 3:

How did that first time on?

Speaker 1:

open mic work out for you.

Speaker 2:

Let's see, recently or before, covid no the first one, when you tried stand-up comedy, you went from teaching it to doing it, which is probably very intimidating even for people who are mesmerized with it. Once you walk on stage, it's a different ballgame, yeah, so how did that go?

Speaker 3:

It went fairly well, did it? It went fairly well. So how did that go? It went fairly well, did it? It went fairly well? Because I realized early on I didn't have any material, so I simply told a story and perfected the performance of the story.

Speaker 1:

Excellent, that's good.

Speaker 3:

And again I had the resource of who to go to to review the best way, way to practice stand-up so I just did that. But I could not sleep the whole week before the performance like I was like jumping out of my skin, and then just the night before I slept like a baby because it was like nice, sharla, could you imagine her on her?

Speaker 2:

I'd be right. She's so calm, she's already. Yeah, I can imagine her all jittery.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I was a wreck. I was a wreck, that was hilarious that's great but it's up on YouTube if you want to see it at Sharla Hahn H-A-U-N. Yeah, you're famous.

Speaker 1:

It's yeah, it's called the.

Speaker 3:

Worst.

Speaker 2:

First Date. Oh, which is a hilarious story, and yeah, we won't even go into it right now because you got to go watch it on YouTube, but it is a funny story.

Speaker 1:

One thing I'd love to do, if you would entertain so much, is to just give the audience a little bit of a how-to, like how do I start to begin to look at myself in a way that can be empowering in meetings and in life?

Speaker 3:

That's a great question, really great question. So I would start with writing down your biggest frustrations and pet peeves, because those conflicts are what give you insight into the thing that you're doing that's not working. And just start to tell those stories and see, look at what's really happening. Who's even the most embarrassing stories are the best ones, because if you can highlight the fact that you were embarrassed, people relate to that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because we're human right.

Speaker 3:

We're all so much hiding that stuff to let go of it and go look at how much of a jerk I look like. People are like they know it and they see themselves and they relax because you've relaxed, you've accepted yourself, and so, first of all, they know you're going to accept them, but they begin to accept themselves.

Speaker 2:

So I've been to my share of stand-up comedies Some hilarious, I can't stop laughing. Others I want to support, I just can't. Whatever, what is one of the biggest mistakes that you see amateurs or first-timers just beginners make? I've paid to go see people that have really been letdowns and I feel like there's different ruts.

Speaker 3:

Let's do some learned helplessness right now I'm just saying no, but okay, so I'm going to say it's a fabulous question, though, because it's important, it's very important, yes, okay. So I'm going to say, I'm going to say it's important, it's very important Okay.

Speaker 2:

And I could, yeah, and I have an opinion, but you have. You've been around it so much more. I'm truly as a and a viewer. So what would you say is one of the most common mistakes?

Speaker 3:

I would say the most common mistake is that people are drawn to comedy because they're in pain. People are drawn to comedy because, they're in pain and they take that pain up on stage and they lash out at people who are less powerful than they are.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 3:

So there's this phrase in comedy called punching up versus punching down, and there's a socioeconomic structure If you're a white male, you're in good shape, if you're a white female, you're in not as good a shape. But it's more difficult for African Americans. In comedy, no, just in life, okay. For example, what I see a lot of times is men going up and complaining about women, and that would be punching down.

Speaker 3:

So, punching down at somebody who's below you on the socioeconomic scale, I see. So, if you think about it, white men really can only safely make fun of themselves.

Speaker 2:

Huh, interesting Does that make sense. And then it would be somewhat refreshing to the crowd.

Speaker 1:

Connor tried to make fun of the Pope once. It didn't work out too well.

Speaker 2:

She was punching up. She was punching up a little bit there. It didn't work out too well. Yeah, some people on the up ladder, don't? They don't? Yeah, they don't take it.

Speaker 3:

So you'll notice in my stand-up comedy on YouTube that I make a point of pointing out that the guy that I'm on this worst date with, that I'm punching at, was a golfer, was doing quite well for himself. So it's very clear I'm not in the power position here, okay, because I knew that I was punching, got it. I wanted to make it very clear I'm not in the power position here, okay, because I knew that I was punching, got it. So I wanted to make it very clear and I don't want to give it away, but it's clear by the end of it that he's an alcoholic.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, interesting. So there's a lot of psychology that really goes into good comedy as well. Yeah, knowing how to punch and then pull back back, how to like public figures are almost always punchable.

Speaker 3:

Right, they're putting themselves in a position to be more punchable. And then you can just like corporations, you can always punch at a corporation right, or I'll never forget, though.

Speaker 2:

I was in new york city. I went and saw this broadway show and it was a if I said the name, everybody would know and I thought it was going to be hilarious and I got tickets and it was just a political. It was a political dialogue or monologue that had parts of humor. She was using humor to get the crowd to agree with her, but it wasn't funny at all. And she was going punching up, but it just wasn't funny, she all. And she was going punching up, but it just wasn't funny. She used the stage as, like this, just for her angst or whatever, but she was using humor to cut it and to make jokes at the expense of the candidate she didn't like, and it just. I was so disappointed.

Speaker 2:

And it was a big, still out there doing her thing, but just not doing comedy. And then we went to see the Price is Right when it came to Warren, and instead of Drew carey they had what's his name, jerry springer. So jerry springer, though his style of humor. He could make the crowd laugh at somebody else's expense, but he's not funny on his own, and so he would make jokes at the expense of the people playing who were purposely being outgoing and oh, let's win, let's win. And he would make these snide remarks and few people laugh. But then the crowd start feeling uncomfortable at his jokes because at the price is right, you're supposed to be excited and out over the top, yeah. So they don't know what to do, how to act. They had no clue. The place got extremely uncomfortable. Nobody was winning, like. There was like just this dead night, even people with these big signs we love you, jerry. By the end of the night we're just sitting there. The energy just sucked from the room and I thought it's.

Speaker 1:

There's a good thing right there If Jerry Springer can drop the ball Seriously.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Who are you not to? That's a good point. You got to be willing to suck to get good.

Speaker 2:

You do, you do and you've got to know your audience. If you have people to make fun of and that's why people are there is to hear you roast other people then you're in the right position if that's what you're good at. But going out there without somebody to make fun of, like all you have is the audience you just got to know your audience. You got to know where you're at.

Speaker 3:

I might sound like I knew what I was doing or I had this figured out, but I'm telling you it took me until I sat down and wrote the book. I really didn't have a grasp on this. I was all through teaching and everything. I was making notes. Oh, this is so funny, this is so funny. When I went to do stand upup, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is all so shamefully boastful. Still I it.

Speaker 1:

This is not something that we're taught social media and so, psychologically, when you learn to do this, when you learn to um, make fun of your, have fun with yourself and share that, especially your own faults, what does that psychologically do for somebody?

Speaker 3:

There's this huge release. I think initially you're just liberated from focusing on not looking bad. Yeah, oh, that's good. That's good. We do spend a lot of energy protecting ourselves from looking bad.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, that's good, we do spend a lot of energy protecting ourselves from looking bad. Yeah, and everybody knows you're bad.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, everybody knows you're bad. No secret, you're not as good at hiding it as you think you are yeah.

Speaker 1:

We just wanted you to know it.

Speaker 3:

Especially our families. Our families know all of our faults Right.

Speaker 2:

I used to have so much pride and dignity, All of our faults right.

Speaker 1:

I used to have so much pride and dignity and now, the older I get, the more I'm like, oh crap, that was all of an illusion.

Speaker 2:

But the entitlement you have now it's so good.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it's so good.

Speaker 2:

So you were going to say your friend.

Speaker 3:

I think that we get. You just relax a lot and you just start to go. You know everything, you can't fail, you really can't fail, like even a friend of mine said to me when I first started telling people I was teaching comedy. A friend of mine goes char, no offense, but you never struck me as funny oh, that's funny, right there, you're right.

Speaker 2:

You're right, it's better to be underestimated.

Speaker 3:

He took an insult, but I knew that not being funny is still funny, do you? Remember how Johnny Carson used to stare at the camera when people didn't laugh and he became the joke.

Speaker 2:

You cannot fail and it's endearing.

Speaker 1:

You're right, boy, that's a great example of a phenomenal comedian that had no problem making fun of himself Johnny.

Speaker 3:

Somebody told me recently that he put. A comedian friend of mine told me that Johnny Carson purposely put in failing jokes into the monologue so that he could do that. Oh, that's fantastic If you think about it. Comedy is all about letting your audience feel superior to you.

Speaker 1:

That's a good one. That's a golden boulder right there.

Speaker 2:

Golden boulder.

Speaker 1:

I like it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a hashtag. Golden boulder, right there, Golden boulder, I like it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's a hashtag, and most of us are really uncomfortable with letting other people be higher than us and just laugh at us where we're at.

Speaker 2:

Okay, here's my words of wisdom If you don't make fun of yourself, you leave the job to someone else and they get to construct the narrative right.

Speaker 3:

So I know. So I think one of the main benefits is just you just have so much more acceptance of not just yourself, but everybody like you can just look at people and go, yeah yeah just like life becomes far more entertaining yes, has to be all right.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know what time it is right.

Speaker 2:

Rapid fire.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, go ahead Feet away.

Speaker 2:

What is this?

Speaker 1:

I wasn't prepared for this. Yes, you are. Oh, yes, you are.

Speaker 2:

Okay, favorite comedian, whitney Cummings. Okay, going on vacation north or south North Okay, miracle Whip or south North Okay, miracle Whip.

Speaker 3:

Or mayonnaise, mayonnaise, oh, hellman's all the way. Favorite pizza, papa John's.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

Look, she likes the Christmas. What was your favorite French fry in the area? Yeah, that one.

Speaker 3:

Where I play Euchre, at when, is Frog Thirsty Frog, thirsty Frog.

Speaker 2:

Brothers or sisters? Do you have both? I just have brothers. Yeah, I knew that.

Speaker 1:

I've always wanted a sister, favorite brother no.

Speaker 3:

That changes over the years. One year it's one brother.

Speaker 1:

It's around Christmas time, you make that decision right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, favorite holiday.

Speaker 3:

Fourth of July Wow, that's a good one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's explosive.

Speaker 3:

We need one more, or Halloween, I like Halloween.

Speaker 1:

Halloween's very creepy. You can't flip, no flip-flop.

Speaker 2:

No flip-flop. Fourth of July. You're a lawyer, you can't flip-flop. Red white a final.

Speaker 1:

Oh favorite hobby besides comedy.

Speaker 2:

Oh, there you go. Oh, I think I know this one Games.

Speaker 1:

Games.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she plays Euchre. Card games, board games, you really see people's personalities, Singly it likes games and comedy.

Speaker 1:

There you go, hey, there you go, hey, yeah, and she'll rationalize the hell out of it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, go to her website. Go to her website.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so one more plug for your website, and and your so have fun with your faultscom.

Speaker 3:

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